tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post9136331600142428844..comments2024-02-20T16:22:10.042-05:00Comments on Tuit Nutrition: Not So ... Fast ... (Part 2)Amy B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08471580967464668110noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-16518812326558568432018-04-20T18:41:06.442-04:002018-04-20T18:41:06.442-04:00Insightful stuff.. Amy thanks for sharing.Insightful stuff.. Amy thanks for sharing.Amandahttps://www.thedietpost.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-30507214185138544432016-11-22T22:20:13.251-05:002016-11-22T22:20:13.251-05:00Right on. Many, many women are already struggling ...Right on. Many, many women are already struggling with eating disorders, too much stress, too many things to do, too much meaninglessness in the hours they're already depriving themselves. I feel pretty great when I go without eating for a while, every once in a while. But Commando or Warrior or whatever they call it makes me not just feel sick but sad. Really sad. I would do a long fast for other reasons--"religious" reasons--but not because I'm 30 pounds overweight. Love me, love my extra 30 pounds. I'm working on. (BTW, I also think Dr. Fung's books are brilliant, but I really hate his tendency to mock people who don't "get it." Different styles. Thanks. This really helped a ton! (Heh.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-7742257262571776752016-11-07T19:39:27.480-05:002016-11-07T19:39:27.480-05:00I firmly believe doing something like the common 1...I firmly believe doing something like the common 16 hour fast followed by an 8 hour eating window is what works optimally for the culture we live in today.<br /><br />When Jimmy Moore did that 21 day fast recently, I thought that was a little crazy. I couldn't ever picture not eating for 21 days, it just wouldn't be fun. <br /><br />Anyways I definitely agree with you, fasting "stupidly" is becoming commonplace.Lo Martinezhttp://thatketoguy.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-205256559018539142016-11-07T18:54:13.406-05:002016-11-07T18:54:13.406-05:00I had a look at that link awhile ago, but had no t...I had a look at that link awhile ago, but had no time to comment until now. (Thanks by the way, it was interesting). Wow, he says a high carb diet makes exercise ineffective! (Or something along those lines). And I did "ignore" the part about low fat. Why anyone would want to eat low fat dairy products when you can eat the delicious full-fat stuff is beyond me......Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700340223624525096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-38545772042856683012016-11-04T10:12:36.407-04:002016-11-04T10:12:36.407-04:00Great stuff Amy, good read!Great stuff Amy, good read!Ketogenics Inchttp://www.ketoshop.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-12200311988200069372016-10-31T10:43:15.084-04:002016-10-31T10:43:15.084-04:00I kind of think that we were designed to survive s...I kind of think that we were designed to survive starvation. Peak predators lions are successful in one out of three hunts. Humans despite our ego weren't peak predators for most of evolution so I can imagine we lost many fresh kills to apex predators. I think the hormonal profile elicited by fasting hints to mechanisms that tweaked us to be more successful for the hunt.Jason MacDonaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-89570237194600623302016-10-28T22:46:07.488-04:002016-10-28T22:46:07.488-04:00My new favorite video on protein, from my #1 go-to...My new favorite video on protein, from my #1 go-to guy on protein (just ignore what he says about low fat toward the very end; the rest is golden). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KlLmxPDTuQTuit Nutritionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708859914305178756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-91754833324246844642016-10-28T19:29:56.802-04:002016-10-28T19:29:56.802-04:00Apropos cavemen and longevity: there are many thin...Apropos cavemen and longevity: there are many things to say about this. Aside from the reasons you gave, and that they did not have medical care; there is also the idea that in a world full of wild animals ready to be eaten, some of those wild animals ate us as well! Since this so rarely happens in our world, it's another thing we often forget. In nature, you eat, and get eaten.<br /><br />Also, I wonder if longer life is a process of our evolution. People who study gut flora say that we've "evolved" to live in synergy with our microbes, and that they help keep us healthy. But maybe this has been an ongoing process; maybe in earlier days, this process had only just begun? And now we're benefiting from years of adaptation? <br /><br />Of course, on the other side, some people have suggested that carbon dating may not be as accurate as we think, so we may even be wrong about the ages of death. I'm not even sure that we've found enough skeletons from a single time period to really even know what the "average" life span was(?) <br /> Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700340223624525096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-39643611181573430182016-10-28T19:14:25.960-04:002016-10-28T19:14:25.960-04:00I am also looking forward to the post on protein. ...I am also looking forward to the post on protein. Yes, a lot of people may be pushing low protein at the moment, but I notice what happens is that one person says something on the internet, and suddenly loads of other people just start repeating it, and so it becomes a fad. To be honest, I'm skeptical of protein restriction. In her book, Nina Teicholz mentions that there were a lot of centenarians among the Sioux Indians back when they ate their traditional diet (of meat and fat. I'm sure buffalo meat is not exactly a low protein food!) It seems like people are just becoming afraid to eat nowadays, everything is "bad". Man cannot live by butter and coconut oil alone, which seems to be what some of these people are pushing....<br /><br />To my knowledge, there is absolutely no scientific proof that protein restriction and/or caloric restriction prolongs life in humans; this is only conjecture- (although it does seem to work with some animals; in apes, however, results have been inconclusive). My personal reason for fasting was partly because I was intrigued by the fact that it supposedly lowers insulin, and partly because I had read an article written by Dr. Thomas Seyfried, where he recommends fasting to prevent cancer. But if there are people in the low carb community who disagree with fasting, I would be curious to know, and what their reasons are! (Amy, can't you give us a little hint???) It would be interesting to hear another side of the story; maybe I would even rethink fasting if there is a good reason not to.<br /> Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700340223624525096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-16652677902093217012016-10-28T12:06:44.640-04:002016-10-28T12:06:44.640-04:00Yes. Total speculation on my part, as I tried to m...Yes. Total speculation on my part, as I tried to make clear right at the beginning.Tuit Nutritionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708859914305178756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-89260354941023531482016-10-28T10:17:59.724-04:002016-10-28T10:17:59.724-04:00I think your assumption that our ancestors were &#...I think your assumption that our ancestors were 'less stressed out", which I think is the crux of the entire article, is complete opinion and utterly baseless in fact, which makes your entire article really not compelling. I think the threat of starving, and the obvious higher/earlier mortality rate would lend them to be at least, if not more chronically stressed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-72311108901606339832016-10-28T09:23:28.917-04:002016-10-28T09:23:28.917-04:00I am looking forward to your post on protein. Many...I am looking forward to your post on protein. Many people are pushing low protein now. Mercola follows Rosedale, Dr Hyman says meat should be a condiment and Dr Fung believes we eat too much protein. Dr Perlmutter too seems to be on the lower protein band wagon lately too. I don't know what to make of it all. I would look forward to your assessment.jfrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03707962257811151662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-45124474918821245052016-10-27T20:28:44.857-04:002016-10-27T20:28:44.857-04:00Totally agree. The difference now is the longevity...Totally agree. The difference now is the longevity folks, and I do think there's an angle there -- if your main goal is to live very *long,* there might be something to severe caloric restriction and/or fasting. There's a tradeoff between being reproductively fit and carrying a lot of muscle mass versus living a long time. Ron Rosedale covers it very well. (In these videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvTE--5w808 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv-M-5-s9B0) And I agree that the "nasty, brutish, and short" thing is overplayed, but I also think very few cavemen lived to 95... even if they managed not to get some sort of infectious disease or die during childbirth or during adolescence, I think it was probably not the evolutionary norm for people to live to 75-100. I think that's probably pretty novel, but also, our hominid ancestors weren't *looking* to live as long as we are now. So I think there really *could* be something to the protein restriction angle (and even total calorie restriction angle), but it comes down to goals/priorities: do you want to feel and look good and have lots of energy and good moods during whatever time you might have on this big rock, or do you want to limit your food intake in ways that might -- *might* -- help you live a few more years? (And it's not like you'll be living longer when you're in the shape you were in at 25...you'll be living longer in, say, your 80s...) Lots of unanswered questions, and I tend to not be all that keen on the protein restriction.<br /><br />But overall, I agree with you -- and some of the most popular and more importantly, most *knowledgeable* people in the low-carb research community actually really don't encourage fasting and in fact actively try to distance themselves from others who are proponents. (I'd rather not name names, but they're biggies.) It's funny, the schisms that happen behind the scenes that so few of us know about because puts on a united front in terms of what we *do* agree on. ;-)Tuit Nutritionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708859914305178756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-7221474730540291772016-10-27T16:47:31.162-04:002016-10-27T16:47:31.162-04:00I'm glad you mentioned that traditional hunter...I'm glad you mentioned that traditional hunter gatherers and Paleo people most likely didn't go hungry as often as "we" seem to think. I've always believed this- (and Gary Taubes writes about this in "Good Calories, Bad Calories"). Nowadays, most of us don't know how to hunt- (or if we do, we're probably not experts at it); so partly for this reason, I think we tend to assume that hunting was difficult, and food hard to come by. In addition, in today's world, animals are encroached by civilization and don't run freely all over the land like they used to. To me it makes sense that in a world full of wild animals, there was probably plenty to eat. Even in the absence of big game, there were plenty of insects, reptiles, turtles, birds, rodents, and everything in between. Native people ate pretty much everything that moved; they weren't limited to the same 3 animals that we tend to eat today! In addition to that, hunting and gathering were these peoples' full time jobs....why wouldn't they be experts at it? They had the same brain as we do, they just used it for different purposes, and had different knowledge. I suspect life wasn't as "nasty, brutish and short" as some people seem to think. Nowadays things are different of course, as the few remaining hunter gatherers that are left have been shoved onto less than ideal land....or there are restrictions placed on how much they can hunt. So we can't make assumptions about the past based on our current world.<br /><br />Actually, I've read that the advent of agriculture was really the beginning of food insecurity, famines, etc. <br /><br />Well personally, most of the times that I've fasted I've done well with it; however, I notice that after fasting, my appetite usually goes up and I tend to eat more to compensate (i.e. "feast"), which I always felt was fine; that's the wisdom of my body speaking! Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14700340223624525096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-61322395390102405572016-10-26T13:20:19.734-04:002016-10-26T13:20:19.734-04:00Good post! You found what works for you. I person...Good post! You found what works for you. I personally found that fasting 23hrs/day/(eating 1x/day)/5days/wk works wonders for me while eating a non-processed Lo-CHO HPHF diet when I do eat.<br /><br />Is it stressful? I don't think so. It might be when 1st starting out and getting your body used to it, but in a week or so your body and hunger adapts. I wouldn't recommend it to a diabetic, of course. But for anyone else that's having issues with their weight/health and not under a lot of external stress in their lives I would recommend it HIGHLY.<br /><br />In the end.... folks should experiment and find out what works best for them! Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00717802492830798800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-37274342402259124282016-10-26T12:08:35.866-04:002016-10-26T12:08:35.866-04:00I've never deliberately fasted - but I find th...I've never deliberately fasted - but I find that my body does it for me.<br /><br />When I was dutifully eating my high carb low fat diet (for decades) I would need to carb up every 2-3 hours or I would crash both physically and mentally.<br /><br />For over a decade now I've been eating low carb/Paleo, and this has literally been the first time I discovered the qualitative as well as quantitative difference between genuine hunger and carb cravings from reactive hypoglycemia.<br /><br />Now I routinely eat something like a buttered oatcake with smoked salmon or ham, and sometimes nuts or salad, for breakfast - just to stop my liver dumping too much glucose - then don't eat again until any time between late afternoon and late evening, depending purely on when I get hungry. Often I only have one main meal, and a snack similar to breakfast later, sometimes I have two smaller meals depending. I seldom snack because I no longer need to. Finally I can trust my body to signal what it needs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-22377499091155911992016-10-26T11:32:18.062-04:002016-10-26T11:32:18.062-04:00great post. very necessarygreat post. very necessarygoing to seedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02608576644985379192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4833628955058077617.post-23991992593858098062016-10-26T10:54:08.940-04:002016-10-26T10:54:08.940-04:00All good and interesting thoughts as usual. Please...All good and interesting thoughts as usual. Please keep sharing your ideas and perspective. Esmee La Fleurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18203495318503567876noreply@blogger.com